Elevate with Grace

S3 Ep 8 From Creativity to Self Expression for FULL ALIVENESS with Myke Dixon (Part 2)

• Elevate with Grace • Season 3 • Episode 8

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In this conversation, Myke Dixon invites us back to the heart of who we are before the noise of the world pulls us away. We explore creativity as self-expression, kindness as a form of cultural leadership, and why learning to trust our inner impulses might be the most future proof skill we have. Together we unpack how small, human acts can change the way we show up at work, at home and within ourselves. It is warm, grounding, and quietly transformative.

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Everyday Creative: https://www.mykeldixon.com/book

Key Takeaways

  • Creativity is less about talent and more about trusting the quiet impulses within us.
  • Self-expression is a powerful antidote to a noisy, numbed world.
  • In an age of AI and sameness, our humanity becomes our greatest value.
  • Kindness, generosity and presence are not soft skills. They are differentiators.
  • Rituals matter, but presence matters more. Routine only works when we stay connected to why it exists.
  • Creativity expands when we stop treating it like a performance and start experiencing it like a walk or a song.
  • Community deepens when we show even a small spark of our true selves. Like attracts like.
  • We future proof our careers and our lives by being more human, not less.

Key Quotes

  • “You feel this tiny whispering impulse that something wants to be born and you trust it and act on it. The universe takes 500 steps toward you.”
  • “Your relevance in the world will amplify when you bring more kindness, creativity and generosity into how you show up.”
  • “We can build a new world by being this way. Even if the world cannot see it yet.”
  • “Creativity is not about arriving anywhere. It is about being in the experience.”
  • “Once you get a taste of presence, you start getting hungry for more.”

Music created by Claire's daughter Hannah

Welcome back to Elevate With Grace, a podcast for people who are short on time and long to take steps to create success on their own terms. If you are feeling overworked, undervalued, and stuck in the daily juggle, knowing you are meant for more, then this podcast is for you. We cut through the noise to bring you the most valuable UpToDate insights expert, wisdom and practical strategies with bite-sized action tips to help you take bold steps to create real progress, real impact, and a career in life that truly work for you. Welcome back for part two of this mini series with Mike Dixon on being an everyday creative. Just to recap, Mike is a bestselling author, award-winning creative mastermind of incredible key notes and transformational business events. In our last episode, Myke Challenge Norms changed how I think of creativity and made me think deeper about how I bring more self-expression into the world, and I hope it did for you too. If you haven't had a chance to check out the first part of this conversation, please do as we pick up the conversation from the part where we start understanding the challenge of the algorithm, the noise, the numbing, and it's call to action, to take that control back, to choose the red pill, and to unplug, to challenge who you wanna be every day and how you wanna express yourself. And how, reminding yourself how good creativity can feel each day begets more great, feels more universe delivering creative moments and bigger opportunities to live in full aliveness. Mike Reframed Creativity is self-expression and feels deeply that we are here in this moment to honor our full capacity as humans. And not creating and bringing your unique and special gifts that only you can give. To your friends, your family, your community, your workmates, your work partners, that the world is just missing out. So let's dive back in as we talk about how we can seize the day and plan for a much larger and more self-expressive. December and 2026.

Mykel:

Then life becomes this rich, vibrant, vital, astonishing experience. Moment to moment.

Miranda:

and all you're doing is gonna the top floor and flying an airplane, the story and the.

Mykel:

That's right.

Miranda:

and the environment brings the rest, which is that serendipitous moment that you'd talking to or the

Mykel:

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And even tracing that back, where does it come from? It comes from the moment that you feel an instinct.

Miranda:

Hmm.

Mykel:

feel this tiny whispering impulse that something's not right, or something wants to be born and you trust it and you allow it, and then you act on it. And you just take a couple of steps and the universe will take 500 towards you and then something magical will happen. You don't need permission for that. You don't need approval. You don't need to study, you don't need a certificate. You just need to start listening to that voice, trusting it, and then acting on it. And then suddenly life just comes. And then also, in addition to that, if you become that person that starts to do this, that starts to trust. And over time you build more confidence with this. And then it's not as scary. So then maybe you do start posting something online, or then maybe you do raise your hand a little more in meetings, and then you get to a point where you stop raising your hand

Miranda:

Mm-hmm.

Mykel:

you just start jumping in. Who's the person that the world will turn to first for the best projects, the more creative, initiatives for the one they wanted a party, or for the one that they want to pour their heart out to, or whatever it is. And in an age of AI where everything's getting hollowed out, everything's becoming the same. Your value, not to put this into a too much of a commercial context, but your relevance and value in the world will amplify a hundred fold. Because if the company starts cutting costs and looking to restructure and get rid of people, who's the one they're gonna keep, they're gonna keep the one that not just adds creative value and sparks new ideas, but the one that's generous and kind and thoughtful and considerate, the one that makes other people feel great at work, the one that people trust, and love having oh God, thank God you are here.

Miranda:

Hmm.

Mykel:

They're not gonna get rid of that person. And when they do, the culture really suffers. Or that's the person that gets poached, or that's the person that gets more clients, I just think that that's gonna amplify even more. And so, yes, on the one hand, there's a beautiful responsibility we have to the universe to be vessels, to be portholes, to be instruments of vibrancy and aliveness and abundance and inclusion and joy and all of that stuff. But also, this is a terrible way of saying it, but this is how you future proof your value in the modern world in a contemporary commercial context, is to be kind and generous and loving and thoughtful and to be brave enough to step forward when the moment calls for a little more humanity.

Miranda:

I love that and I, I'd hope it's true, to be honest. I really hope it's true because I think so

Mykel:

So

Miranda:

you really feel that those things aren't valued as much as they

Mykel:

much.

Miranda:

be. And I

Mykel:

And I think that's

Miranda:

part, and that's

Mykel:

that's

Miranda:

what is

Mykel:

what is changing in our world,

Miranda:

is that as the

Mykel:

as the world does,

Miranda:

you

Mykel:

you know,

Miranda:

a bit more connected and hopefully this self-expression creativity becomes more important because that is the humanness in the output as opposed to the AI or whatever that looks like but yeah, we can let go of

Mykel:

that corporate,

Miranda:

And maybe just rediscover what is it that makes us alive at work, makes us alive in life. Gosh, I hope you're

Mykel:

right?

Miranda:

concerned, like I'm just, my heads going. Do you know that people that are

Mykel:

Yeah.

Miranda:

the workplace, they

Mykel:

Yeah, I do.

Miranda:

they value the

Mykel:

I work with them every day. And this conversation is a perfect example of that, right? So you so generously gave me this wonderful wrap when we jumped on, but you said in it, oh, you're so humble. I didn't even know you wrote a book. Normally everyone's out there plugging this thing. And on the one hand, inside of a context of commerciality and growth at all costs or wanting to be materially wealthy and successful in that stereotypical sense, I could be doing a lot more of that. But through honoring what's real for me in the moment you've found me. And we're having this beautiful conversation now, will there be a million people impacted by this? Will we get 10,000 likes on the LinkedIn post, da da, dah, dah, dah, dah. Does that really matter? No, because you and I are having this beautiful moment today that is making the world a better place. As we're speaking, maybe two people will listen to this and go, you know what? That's, I like that. I think, yeah, I want to be kind in the world too. And whether or not the world that's numb, lost, disconnected, dulling itself and yeah, completely not the way it should be.

Miranda:

Mm.

Mykel:

Understand, or whether it even can understand and appreciate and value. It doesn't matter because we can build a new world by being this

Miranda:

And

Mykel:

like I'm very

Miranda:

there for the people that are prepared to listen and that do want to get on that journey. And I hear you, and I love that idea that

Mykel:

yeah.

Miranda:

have to be now, and that you will eventually find each other.

Mykel:

Some of the biggest stories of successful artists and philosophers and people that have made a huge difference culturally on the world over time were relatively unknown in the time they were alive.

Miranda:

that

Mykel:

know, it's that posthumously,

Miranda:

Mm-hmm.

Mykel:

The knowledge of their work and the value of their work came a hundred years later. Oh my God. He actually was an amazing composer, but he couldn't find five bucks when he was alive.

Miranda:

I know.

Mykel:

And this is true of the

Miranda:

those guys.

Mykel:

Yeah, but the, but at the same time, it's sad if we're seeking approval or trying to get people to understand us in a particular way. The older I get, and that was me 10 years ago, I was on a crusade. I absolutely wanted everyone to understand creativity and self-expression and gotta build a different world. And when I was in my twenties, I was a big environmental activist and did it change much or I don't know, but being who I am now and the older I get, the more I recognize it is making the time to smile at a stranger, say hi to the barista, be nice to your kids. All these things that aren't seen and aren't shareable and don't deliver any real commercial value, so to speak that do actually have more of an impact and do change the world a lot more than we recognize. And even if we take all of that aside and you go, okay, on your deathbed, looking back. Do you want to be someone that's reflecting, going, ah, wow, I was a bit of an or do you want to look back and go, man, God, I love doing that for that person, and I love doing that for that person. And wasn't that great? Oh, I could've even done that better. I should've given a bit more there I and then Well, and even taking it beyond thinking when we're on our this very moment, what feels better a meeting with, with other people? Is it making fun of someone when they leave the room? Or is it rolling your eyes? Or is it ensure that you get what you deserve and no one, or actually, is it sharing is it people in? Is it lifting people up? Is it a little bit and saying, you know what, I'm cool. I love myself. The universe loves me. That person looks like they could deal do with a hug. Metaphorically speaking, or literally. Yeah. Why not? It feels better because it's physics, it's what life does. Life like the mycelium, we now know under a forest, all the, the mushrooms and they're sharing nutrients. The whole, this whole idea that bastardized by Darwin, life is competitive and survival of the fittest. Yeah. That was just one little phrase in a 2000 word book or whatever it was, 20,000, a hundred thousand. You know, it was this momentous piece of work.

Miranda:

and there's probably a lot of sentiment in there that's

Mykel:

It's, it's the exact opposite. It's all about the most successful, um, kind or or, actually work together? And not just with their species, but with other species. It's all about about building an ecosystem of diverse, you know, skills, expertise, perspective, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So sharing

Miranda:

Sharon, Karen, like, like attracts like

Mykel:

yeah.

Miranda:

there gives you the opportunity to get it back and a hundred percent. It is great. I think we are hopefully moving to be a less materialistic society. I think Europe is getting there they can be our little bit of a blueprint. do more Europe and less the US in that regard. That we care for each other, that we make sure that we prioritize those things. So I love that and I just love that you've tied

Mykel:

So amazing.

Miranda:

To creativity.'cause I we started, which the creativity essential for life. And if we think about self-expression instead of creativity and out getting into the arena giving authentic selves, all of the corporate

Mykel:

unlearning

Miranda:

of the

Mykel:

processes and things make

Miranda:

make like we've got control. It was probably a bit we have to unlearn a little bit there. maybe we can

Mykel:

but also that everybody enjoy.

Miranda:

Not just the 1% or 2%.

Mykel:

a little, um, of if people are still like uh, there, will be people in your workplace. There's people in your community, there's people even in your family. When you just a self-expression or when you choose creative choice over you know, a boring generic one or or the one you did or when you choose to be a little more kind or a little more empathetic or a little more fun or a little more ridiculous, people just aren't ridiculous anymore. I love being ridiculous and I'm noticing even with my audiences, sometimes I'll just go off on a wacky, wacky tangent and get quite abstract and weird and there there's less tolerance it now, and it's not tolerance in terms of frustration, it's tolerance in terms of understanding. It's like I don't understand what he's doing instead of Wow. This is cool. He's taking us somewhere interesting because everything's getting shallow. Everything's getting really, numb and dull. But my point is, when you start to just show a little bit of that, there will be people in your life that will go, oh my God, I've been for this. I'm gonna start towards them. There'll be people that are in your life that you don't realize are in your life, or maybe people in your workplace that you didn't think that you really connected with, or they work in a different team or department or whatever and they will gravitate towards you and you'll start. not just new opportunities and pathways and relationships, but you'll start to feel that sense of belonging that so many of us don't have. Where we feel isolated and alone. We're fighting it all out by ourselves. You'll start to be like, oh my God, there's a whole team out there that want more beauty and love and life and joy and magic in the world. No, I didn't. I couldn't see them before. But now I'm starting to take, to trust self-expression, to trust these little voices in my head and act upon them. It's a signal they start running towards me. So then, yeah. All this idea of needing the world to know you or or needing to change make it better. It, it becomes less, you start to be surrounded by people that, that are doing the and you feel like you've come home.

Miranda:

Sounds

Mykel:

Hmm.

Miranda:

No, I am like, bring it on and because I certainly, I try to create that in my teams and what I can control. I think we've also gotta remember we've got a status of control and we can gently impact and gently prescribe

Mykel:

Its hard to It's on the journey.

Miranda:

people on that don't want to go and they've gotta do some

Mykel:

Okay.

Miranda:

as can influence what you can influence. And is a way of trying to influence a bit broader and a bit bigger. But I think it's so important for us to not be discouraged by the naysayers and trust in a very big way, trust there is enough like-minded people that we're not gonna be ostracized and kicked out from the world, but in fact, we're actually gonna have a more rich life experience and bring that community together. So that sounds awesome. I'm pretty confident that most people want on that train and, yeah, let's put it out there. All do that and we can create that for ourselves and for the people around us. And then people will be like, Hey, I want a bit of that. Maybe I can. Do a little bit more kindness, a bit more collaboration, get my ego out of the way a little bit more. So

Mykel:

Yeah. Good.

Miranda:

it How do we, so we're gonna bring this into the work by we're going to and create some kind moments for people. We are going to try and just bring a little bit of self-expression into each day. Is there something at home that people could maybe take on your book? You mentioned having the

Mykel:

Yeah.

Miranda:

out in or something. Like, is it just a matter of tripping over this opportunity to express yourself or be creative or create something maybe discourage or rethink scrolling, rethink your need to watch that next episode. To be able to,'cause that is a form of community, you know, talking about your different

Mykel:

Mm-hmm.

Miranda:

or Reality tv

Mykel:

Mm-hmm.

Miranda:

people maybe not in as meaningful a way.

Mykel:

Yeah. a very practical way of keeping, close to to creativity. So I mean, if you haven't ever played an instrument or you haven't really touched the arts in any way, six different instruments and a whole bunch of paints and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, why not Go for it. Leave it in the living room. I have two drum kits in my living room right now and a piano that the kids, it's when they're, when they're in our studio, yeah, it doesn't get played as often. they're in the living room, they get played a whole lot more. But,

Miranda:

Yeah.

Mykel:

um, I mentioned nature and I just touched on the arts. I do think the arts are just incredibly powerful and again, are lost in modern life. We, we didn't use to have engineers, scientists, artists, dancer, poet. We weren't separated and segregated into these little boxes. We'd all be working in the fields and then we'd all come together for ceremony and we'd sing and dance and play drums around the fire, we'd all cook and we'd all you know, some would have a natural to different things, and some would prefer them, or some would be you know, they'd have to play within a tribe or whatnot. But we were much more holistic in the way that we got to enjoy the full capacity of our humanity. So again, going back to what we talked about at the start, is these stories that we have about who we are. Get rid of a story that you can be good art. Get rid of this idea that it's something master. And become good at and see it more like you go for a walk not rushing to get to the end of your walk. You are enjoying it. And the same is true of listening to music. you don't put the song on double speed. trying to rush to get to the end. want to be in that experience of that song and you love it so much. You want to go again, oh, hit repeat. And when you, it's come into the chorus. I love this bit. See your creativity or some kind of artistic expression as that. It's not, you are not arriving anywhere. It doesn't, you are never painting, or You are not learning Melbourne shuffle or, you know, figuring out how to do a move the K-pop dance moves to, for some performance, do it for being in the dance. Because that's where you'll get not just the health benefits, but you'll just start to your life differently. And it won't be so calendar driven. It won't be so outcome driven. It will be experiential and it will be present. in that moment. And once again, once you get a taste of that then, you start getting hungry for more

Miranda:

I get bitten by that bug. You actually reminded me of athletes, when you are doing a lot of sport and you're doing a lot of training, you actually feel pain when you don't do

Mykel:

Yeah,

Miranda:

your to hurt and such when you're not there. And so what I'm hearing is that creativity, when you start to bring it into your life and you start to have those

Mykel:

actually,

Miranda:

that it

Mykel:

yeah.

Miranda:

don't get into it,

Mykel:

Yeah. If I don't write, my wife knows if I'm a bit jammed up, she'll go, I'll deal with the kids. Just go write. And I don't write anything. I don't never publish it. I'll just, I might start with, I and I dunno if I like this font, maybe I'll change my font, maybe I'll do it. Or if it's handwritten, I'm like, I don't like this pen. I, where's my other pen? I, and then over time suddenly it's, God, I really should call my mom. I never really thought that I, and then it gets into this, beautiful thing. And, yeah. We need it. A hundred percent. Restore yourself. Yep. Get back to, to the center of who you are. Find that reconnection with something, more timeless and eternal than just what's on the calendar. And then, life becomes so much richer. And then you gotta jump into that next meeting. And people feel it. And then, yeah, it's.

Miranda:

You come smiling. You don't come like, oh, I'm here, but I don't want to

Mykel:

That's right. Yeah. yeah, it's magical. I recommend everyone the joy of discovery. If it, it's, it hasn't been in life before then, oh, what a gift how much fun you just get to play and, see what emerges.

Miranda:

Absolutely. on. Well I am confident that you have absolutely convinced our audience, case That feels strong. So really, thank you so much for your time, Myke. You're absolutely amazing

Mykel:

big nose back at you.

Miranda:

am buzzing. You have just given me so much more framing and I'm excited to even see how I can just some of those processes right down to make it more fun for my team. gonna be a great one. but you know, huge thank you. And I've got two things I'd like you to address before we leave. So the first one is you talk about habit a little bit and talking about habit as we need some, but we also need spontaneity. So habit, spontaneity, routine. do you balance those things? Because it's very hard to have routine. And they kind of with habits routine sort of goes with habit pretty consistently. So you know, a lot of our listeners, it's like one of the hacks for

Mykel:

Try,

Miranda:

right? Is to try and things in just as a

Mykel:

just do it every day. How do we have

Miranda:

But then how do we have or how do we bring creativity into that? Or do we throw out routine?

Mykel:

presence? presence? and connection. So if you are, let's say you are. kind of going to the gym or you're going for a run because it's good for your body. Yes, you might need a break because you don't want to overdo your muscles, et cetera, et cetera. But let's say you are going for a run and you really, you just can't remember why you're running anymore and you've lost the spark for it, and you're just going through the motions and you're not really pushing yourself. And you can do, you okay, I'm gonna get myself a goal and I'm gonna train for that goal. Hmm. That might work for a while. And then after the goal, you're well, what now? Or you could you know, if I don't I'm gonna get, so it's kind of and, and a stick If I don't run, I'm going to be overweight, or I'm gonna get unhealthy. And that might drive you for a while, but again, maybe that loses legs. But if instead took a moment to just really connect with, why am I What do I What is like my body? Wow. Maybe today I'm gonna run in a different style of running. Maybe I'm gonna run on the wrong side of the road. Maybe I'm just going to I don't know, maybe I'm gonna skip instead of run and, a moment just to connect and then hear, listen for that little voice and trust and then act upon it. And maybe running's not the best example, but thinking, let's think about a, a weekly standup, right? Yeah. Great.

Miranda:

on a treasure

Mykel:

Yeah, good. Yeah, exactly. So you, that little stuff, and if you're, try and do, and every day, if that becomes routine and habitual and, okay, God, I'm trying to do something different every day, well then get present again. Stop, connect, get really attuned to your body and go, well, what am I really in for? What is this all about? And listen for, try to create that space, that silence for something to come through. Like thinking about a team meeting at a standup if it, if you go, you know what? I just don't think we acknowledge people enough. Let's start with acknowledging people and not just for what they've done, but for who they are. Cool. And you do that and cool for a while, and then it starts getting a bit, it starts getting a bit samey and you. Stop pause because you've changed. They've changed. The world has changed. Get this moment and connect and listen for what is it asking of me? what is it Where's the impulse? And a new, oh wow. Well, maybe we still do the thing, but instead of doing it like that, we do it like this, and then there'll be a freshness of vitality. So you still keep the routine or keep the ritual, but it comes back to your presence and the way that you bring yourself to it. I had someone very recently without rambling too much in this little WhatsApp group, we're in. Ironically about getting fit, it's evolved into all this other stuff. And we have this like Wednesday Warrior, and it was intentionally a daggy name, you know, making fun about whatever. And it's just a, it's, it's a thing where we get on and we go, oh, we'll just acknowledge someone in the group this week for something that they've done this week. And one of the guys is, he's got a PhD in motivational science, and he's a very learned man. And so he, stuff, but he has a huge aversion to goals, to defined outcomes, to you know, all of this standard motivation stuff just gets to a where it feels a bit samey. And I, I, so I hate routine. I hate I hate, it just feels rah And I couldn't help well, yeah, but dude, you've bring yourself to it because there's a few that, that unknowingly happening. If you are on the one you can't think of Anyone in this that something worthy of being acknowledged that's unknowingly you know, that it's a of saying, like, oh yeah, wow. I didn't realize that I'm diminishing by me going, oh, it's getting a bit tired and stale. I'm also saying now you that I think is worth acknowledging. So again, just a useful frame. Yeah. And then the other one is like, oh wow, you are so, that you don't have the capacity to bring to this, to to get creative with this, to just say, nah, um, it, you're actually who you are in that you can't, alive or you don't have the capacity to quite disempowering. So yeah, they're just to think about. But, but yeah, it's fun.

Miranda:

it also is that it's a ritual, maybe not more as a routine, and it's not prescriptive, is what you're suggesting, is that you can have this idea that we're gonna do something that's more meaningful for the who

Mykel:

That looks like each week percent.

Miranda:

Which

Mykel:

Yeah.

Miranda:

that. we do, we are very prescriptive and people want a prescription, tell me what you want out of this because, and it's like, Hmm. Get uncomfortable. Maybe just try it see what it feels like. Hmm. I like

Mykel:

Wonderful. And yeah. Oh God. I could keep going, but I won't.

Miranda:

Oh my gosh. I know. Let's do

Mykel:

yeah. Love to.

Miranda:

but also, so final question is just do you have any cool projects coming up that you'd love to share or a little sneaky new book release, new podcast coming out? Anything you

Mykel:

All So yeah, the next book will be called Wild Work and it will be taking everything we've just talked even deeper, a further in terms of You might have a job title and show up. To a every day, but really what's the real of the 21st century is, Yeah. And then the podcast to go with that. But then also I'm launching a program next year for a cohort. It's 10 years in the making, and it's, 20 high agency humans to over a year of this curated sequence of experiences reawaken their wild self and to make something that only they can make. So their signature project launched all building a world that works for all. So co-authoring a new way of being in the world that, typifies this conversation essentially. So what I've learned through doing the work that I've done over the last 10 years is, that, yeah, we're addicted to frameworks and blueprints and outsourcing our genius to someone else., what we really need to is to make things that remake us. So the learning when we're actually building things and sharing them from the, how we find our gifts is by expressing them in the world, but equally, it's very, very hard to do on our own. And the real power when you do it in community and in all the programs that I've been a part of, either as a participant or even led, they can Yeah. The, the ones that really take off are the ones where the group, where the cohort is so bonded linked no one wins unless everyone wins. The core, make in this, in this program is that they'll bring their signature work to life, their thing, and that no one wins unless everyone wins. And then it all finishes with the group co-designing and producing a festival for a hundred people at the end of the year. So the crescendo is not a handshake and a certificate. It's actually a a one day out in the, out in the bush.

Miranda:

Celebration. Making sure that we share it

Mykel:

Exactly.

Miranda:

as we Oh my

Mykel:

Yeah.

Miranda:

A and a training session

Mykel:

A rite of passage. Yeah, exactly. Mm-hmm.

Miranda:

Wow. How

Mykel:

Lots going on.

Miranda:

I'm so excited to see all of it

Mykel:

You are amazing. Miranda, this has been such a joy chatting with you. I'm so glad you reached out.

Miranda:

oh, likewise. This has been so cool. Thank you so much. I really appreciate your time, insights, and I'm just like,

Mykel:

Ah, stop it.

Miranda:

but I'm absolutely mind blown. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Mykel:

Pleasure.

Miranda:

It's been

I just, I truly did not want that conversation to end. It has been an absolute joy to be in conversation with Mike on this topic, his knowledge and insights on how to bring full expressive, wonderful selves to work. Woo. I keep saying it, but just mind blowing. As we navigate the future of work. I loved how we discussed the need to bring more kindness, moments of humanity, even that valuing out some thinking into the workplace. So I do hope you really enjoyed that, I feel like today was just a call to action start today and start attracting those like minds to create noticeable and lasting change. I know I felt a little bit doubtful in the conversation, but I feel more optimism and more optimism, we can do this, we can certainly create a beautiful community, a beautiful tribe of people out there in the workplace. Doing good. Just upping it extra one, 2%. If you're listening to those podcasts, you're already one of those people that's like, I'm doing all this, and it doesn't always feel like it's getting returned or appreciated. Amp it up, that creativity, self-expression, a bit to those people that are a bit numb, actually, see what you are doing. Go. I see that. I'd love that. I want more of that for me too, or I wanna join you on that journey and, let's see if we can create this amazing world that Mike is sharing, where he believes that the true value, the people that will really thrive in the workplace are those beautiful people that are putting more kindness, humanity, creativity, self-expression, more excitement and aliveness into how they show up and how they work with others. Alrighty. And I feel like you gave us a real call to action to start today and start attracting those, like to create noticeable and lasting change. And the next time you wanna integrate a challenge, change up. I do hope that you reflect back on our conversation around habit and rituals, bringing presents into those habits to help give them a sprinkle of fairy dust to keep them fresh and keep the vitality to make it truly awesome. This whole episode has been a call to action or an action challenge, so I hope there's been plenty of inspiration but just in case, I think the core thing we do, is the idea of play without purpose at least once a day. It's a busy time of year. There is a lot on, but it's also can be a magical time of the year. So I do hope that you can find joy, presence, and a wonder in this time. Trust those whispered impulses. No editing, just collecting. Go wild with your costume this year. Take extra photos and be a bit more expressive at that dinner event or that family piece. Write little love notes to your family and tell them why you're so grateful for them. I guarantee that they're gonna be blown away. I do hope the everyday creative has been added to your wishlist. It is a truly great book and it's just gonna uplift you for the holiday period. Please do check out the show notes for the links to the books, and bonus points if you do wanna create your own creative manifesto. If you dm me at the Elevate with Grace. In the chat, I'll happily share my creative manifesto with you, and we can riff on how we can make those outcomes in this book a reality and the outcomes from this episode. For those that are keen to turn up the volume 100% on this creative thing, Mike has issued an invitation to learn more about the wild underground. He just shared. It's just launched, and if you love the idea of building a better way of creating and working together and just creating a better workplace for us all, check that link out in the show notes. A huge thank you to Mike for making this conversation. One to remember. What a legend. Thank you to our beautiful listeners for tuning in. We will be taking a break until early next year on the recordings, but there's so much that we've shared this year you'll still see us popping in to your podcast player to remind you of those small steps as you go into the peak life planning season. As we wrap up today, we've put all of the curated content mentioned in the episode notes so you can check them out and dip into the stuff that resonates with you to take small actionable steps for your own success journey. For more inspiration, check out our socials on Insta and LinkedIn. Have a wonderful end of the year and a terrific start to 2026. A huge thank you to Claire, my amazing and inspirational podcast buddy. Couldn't have done it without you, and it has just been a fabulous year. To all of our beautiful community. Thank you so much for gifting us your time, your ears, and your community this year. And I can't wait to see what we can achieve together in 2026. Thank you so much.